Re: DeskNC Windows version
Posted by
kleinbauer@j...
on 2001-04-20 04:21:47 UTC
Well Mariss,
My point was, to stop knocking people who want to make
their own controllers. I have found at least 20 sites on the Internet
where people have made their own machine from scratch. They also use
their machine for production not just bragging. To tell people they
are wasting their time build from scratch when they can buy it cheaper
is wrong.
It would be like me going around telling people Gecko drives
are overkill and they are over priced! A hobbiest can build a smaller
drive system for lots less. How would that be! Don't buy, build!
Then the shoe would be on the other foot. To recommend Gecko drives
to build a plotter is crazy, likewise a homemade system to drive
a large milling machine would not be cost efficient.
By the tone your letter I see you are biased against scratch
builders. I will redo my thinking, when people contact me about my
hobby controller. If my product won't do the job, I will no longer
suggest a Gecko or Camtronics system. I have be honest with people up
to this point! I was out to advance the hobby!
What I need to do is jump in on threads, leave a me too
message and then put a link to my website on the bottom. Retuning!
"You played a mean guitar"
John
My point was, to stop knocking people who want to make
their own controllers. I have found at least 20 sites on the Internet
where people have made their own machine from scratch. They also use
their machine for production not just bragging. To tell people they
are wasting their time build from scratch when they can buy it cheaper
is wrong.
It would be like me going around telling people Gecko drives
are overkill and they are over priced! A hobbiest can build a smaller
drive system for lots less. How would that be! Don't buy, build!
Then the shoe would be on the other foot. To recommend Gecko drives
to build a plotter is crazy, likewise a homemade system to drive
a large milling machine would not be cost efficient.
By the tone your letter I see you are biased against scratch
builders. I will redo my thinking, when people contact me about my
hobby controller. If my product won't do the job, I will no longer
suggest a Gecko or Camtronics system. I have be honest with people up
to this point! I was out to advance the hobby!
What I need to do is jump in on threads, leave a me too
message and then put a link to my website on the bottom. Retuning!
"You played a mean guitar"
John
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., mariss92705@y... wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have been following this thread with some dismay. The writer's
> assumption is one should do everything themselves if one is to keep
> the hobby pure. If electronics are needed then one should educate
> themselves in it enough to build their own drives; somehow that
> experience would make someone more self sufficient and whole.
>
> I think there is a paradox here.
>
> The PC you use is commercialy manufactured. Why not breadboard your
> own and cut out the WinTel monopoly? It would also be a hell of an
> education in multilayer controlled impedence PCB layout technology
> you could be proud of to have mastered.
>
> How about grinding your own leadscrews? A good lathe and a lot of
> hard earned knowledge would turn out a workable example.
>
> But why stop there? To be a true purist you should personally mine
> your own iron ore, smelt it, pour it into castings, machine them
and
> create your own end mill.
>
> While your'e at it, gather some quartz sand, reduce it to silicon
> ingots, saw them and create your own integrated circuits and power
> devices.
>
> The homemade recipes for resistors and capacitors I leave for you
to
> find.
>
> The purpose for the sarcasm is not not meant to be hurtful, rather
it
> is meant to re-examine the inter-relationship we all have with each
> other.
>
> Each of us do what we do best and that inevitably means
> specialization. Human knowledge is simply to broad for any one
person
> to encompass it all. You could have done it up to the 16th century
> but not beyond that.
>
> Everyone has a dream and a goal of what they want to achieve. My
> drives are a small part of that, and I understand in other people's
> dreams of what they want to do, they are only a means to an end.
> People simply do not want to be sidetracked designing a drive when
it
> is only a minor building block.
>
> My pleasure is in designing drives; it's what I've done my entire
> professional life. I have always tried to share freely and help
> others in questions relating to what I'm good at. It is my way of
> giving back.
>
> I wouldn't dream of trying to build a CNC machine myself, though I
> certainly could use one. I am in awe of people who have the
knowledge
> and experience to do that. I also respect their desire to buy a
> finished drive rather than build one themselves.
>
> I simply do what I do best just like you do what you do best.
> Commerce is simply the exchange of our best efforts.
>
> Mariss
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., kleinbauer@j... wrote:
> > > It is rather trivial to build a stepper motor controller.
> >
> > Yea! someone might learn something building their own
controller!
> > Trivial! Why not just buy a brand new Bridgeport!!! Why play with
> > anything? Just sit in front of the tube learning nothing!
> >
> > > good microcontroller can become a stepper controller with the
> > addition of
> > >
> > > It wouldn't be very difficult to add ramping to the micro
either.
> >
> > Now who is reinventing the WHEEL!
> >
> >
> > > Microstepping, I have no idea how to do. But if someone would
> > explain it, I
> > > could code it <g>.
> >
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > > But then comes the question of why. With the price of Gecko
> drives,
> > it's
> > > really not worth the trouble to build your own drivers.
> >
> >
> > Yet an other Gecko AD!
> >
> >
> >
> > I now leave the the DeskNC/Gecko conference!
> >
> >
> > John
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2001-04-16 22:08:51 UTC
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2001-04-18 18:26:01 UTC
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2001-04-18 21:36:52 UTC
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2001-04-18 23:45:35 UTC
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2001-04-19 06:27:27 UTC
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2001-04-19 06:28:12 UTC
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2001-04-19 06:38:10 UTC
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2001-04-19 06:52:04 UTC
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2001-04-19 07:06:24 UTC
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2001-04-19 07:34:58 UTC
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2001-04-19 07:39:33 UTC
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2001-04-19 08:53:30 UTC
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2001-04-19 08:57:21 UTC
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2001-04-19 08:58:59 UTC
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2001-04-19 10:38:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: DeskNC - CNC Pro 3x as fast as EMC???
Paul
2001-04-19 12:32:30 UTC
All quiet on the EMC front ???
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2001-04-19 13:11:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DeskNC Windows version
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2001-04-19 13:18:32 UTC
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2001-04-19 13:44:38 UTC
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2001-04-19 14:26:59 UTC
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2001-04-19 15:19:34 UTC
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2001-04-19 15:21:30 UTC
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2001-04-20 00:02:57 UTC
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2001-04-20 04:08:40 UTC
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2001-04-20 06:17:58 UTC
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2001-04-20 07:41:25 UTC
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2001-04-20 08:58:00 UTC
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2001-04-20 09:44:18 UTC
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2001-04-20 10:34:20 UTC
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2001-04-20 10:36:08 UTC
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2001-04-20 11:04:06 UTC
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2001-04-20 11:11:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: DeskNC Windows version
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2001-04-20 12:18:38 UTC
Re: DeskNC - CNC Pro 3x as fast as EMC???
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2001-04-20 12:35:38 UTC
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2001-04-20 12:54:57 UTC
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2001-04-20 15:54:16 UTC
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2001-04-20 17:53:39 UTC
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2001-04-22 08:58:46 UTC
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2001-04-22 20:57:58 UTC
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2001-04-22 23:15:38 UTC
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2001-04-23 05:39:37 UTC
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2001-04-24 06:23:34 UTC
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