Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Maybe OT, reprap build started
Posted by
Danny Miller
on 2011-10-09 20:55:06 UTC
The Ultimaker is the next generation of that- they removed everything
off the inertia of the head so it not only has insane speeds, but very
high acceleration.
The UM was extruding at 150mm/sec with ABS, 300mm/sec with PLA. I saw
some links where people were talking about going to 1000mm/sec. For
reference, a CNC mill might do 40ipm, which is 17mm/sec.
http://blog.ultimaker.com/2011/01/31/insane-speeds-with-pla-on-ultimaker/
This is not just about runtime. I haven't used it myself, but have a
good friend who does it a lot- the higher speed, among other things,
allows it to print overhanging surfaces at much greater deviations from
vertical.
Danny
off the inertia of the head so it not only has insane speeds, but very
high acceleration.
The UM was extruding at 150mm/sec with ABS, 300mm/sec with PLA. I saw
some links where people were talking about going to 1000mm/sec. For
reference, a CNC mill might do 40ipm, which is 17mm/sec.
http://blog.ultimaker.com/2011/01/31/insane-speeds-with-pla-on-ultimaker/
This is not just about runtime. I haven't used it myself, but have a
good friend who does it a lot- the higher speed, among other things,
allows it to print overhanging surfaces at much greater deviations from
vertical.
Danny
On 10/9/2011 9:50 PM, Low Compression wrote:
> I had a young man who built one and wrote an article about it for my magazine. I also observed the machine at several shows over a period of a year. It had problems generated by A: a poor print head design and B: electronics very susceptible to emi/rfi.
>
> Also, as an electronics technician, I can tell you that there isn't much thought put into the shielding and power supply of the kit machine. It was not designed to be a commercial product, it was, at least at the stage of development I've seen, a gee whiz folks, we can actually make a 3D printer you can play with for an affordable amount of money. Pretty much where microcomputers were in 1978 when I built my first one. It's a computer (or printer) but it doesn't do a lot of anything but train the builder.
>
> Were I wanting a 3D printer, I'd probably buy a print head and install it on my CNC mill. Much more stable platform mechanically, well worked out electronics and then I could focus on making the head perform reliably. Or I'd buy a better head and use that.
>
> The output I've seen from a RepRap is interesting, but not of the quality I've received from better 3D printers.
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Martin<kpmartin@...> wrote:
>> Do you have specific evidence to this effect, or are you just conjecturing?
>>
>> Our printer's temperment had nothing to do with the electronics.
>>
>> -Kevin Martin
>> the Papertrail Handmade Paper& Book Arts
>> New Dundee, Ontario
>> 518-884-7123
>> www.papertrail.ca
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rehmus
>>
>> The machines are very poorly design with regard to shielding for the
>> electronics and filtering for the power supply. That is mostly what causes
>> them to be temperamental. No surprise, really, everything sits out in the
>> open.
>>
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2011-10-06 16:51:50 UTC
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2011-10-08 08:53:55 UTC
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2011-10-08 08:58:26 UTC
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2011-10-08 16:37:44 UTC
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556RECON
2011-10-09 05:42:10 UTC
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2011-10-09 08:15:29 UTC
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2011-10-09 08:24:50 UTC
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2011-10-09 10:49:07 UTC
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2011-10-09 14:17:13 UTC
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Mike Rehmus
2011-10-09 14:55:34 UTC
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2011-10-09 17:26:27 UTC
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2011-10-09 17:43:06 UTC
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2011-10-09 18:38:32 UTC
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2011-10-09 19:50:13 UTC
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