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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Maybe OT, reprap build started

Posted by Danny Miller
on 2011-10-09 20:55:06 UTC
The Ultimaker is the next generation of that- they removed everything
off the inertia of the head so it not only has insane speeds, but very
high acceleration.

The UM was extruding at 150mm/sec with ABS, 300mm/sec with PLA. I saw
some links where people were talking about going to 1000mm/sec. For
reference, a CNC mill might do 40ipm, which is 17mm/sec.

http://blog.ultimaker.com/2011/01/31/insane-speeds-with-pla-on-ultimaker/

This is not just about runtime. I haven't used it myself, but have a
good friend who does it a lot- the higher speed, among other things,
allows it to print overhanging surfaces at much greater deviations from
vertical.

Danny

On 10/9/2011 9:50 PM, Low Compression wrote:
> I had a young man who built one and wrote an article about it for my magazine. I also observed the machine at several shows over a period of a year. It had problems generated by A: a poor print head design and B: electronics very susceptible to emi/rfi.
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> Also, as an electronics technician, I can tell you that there isn't much thought put into the shielding and power supply of the kit machine. It was not designed to be a commercial product, it was, at least at the stage of development I've seen, a gee whiz folks, we can actually make a 3D printer you can play with for an affordable amount of money. Pretty much where microcomputers were in 1978 when I built my first one. It's a computer (or printer) but it doesn't do a lot of anything but train the builder.
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> Were I wanting a 3D printer, I'd probably buy a print head and install it on my CNC mill. Much more stable platform mechanically, well worked out electronics and then I could focus on making the head perform reliably. Or I'd buy a better head and use that.
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> The output I've seen from a RepRap is interesting, but not of the quality I've received from better 3D printers.
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> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Martin<kpmartin@...> wrote:
>> Do you have specific evidence to this effect, or are you just conjecturing?
>>
>> Our printer's temperment had nothing to do with the electronics.
>>
>> -Kevin Martin
>> the Papertrail Handmade Paper& Book Arts
>> New Dundee, Ontario
>> 518-884-7123
>> www.papertrail.ca
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rehmus
>>
>> The machines are very poorly design with regard to shielding for the
>> electronics and filtering for the power supply. That is mostly what causes
>> them to be temperamental. No surprise, really, everything sits out in the
>> open.
>>
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