Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Maybe OT, reprap build started

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Phil@Yahoo <yahoo@...> wrote:

> I think these repeated personal attacks speak volumes. Obviously the truth
> hurts. Must have hit a nerve. Etc. Considering the source, I'll stop
> banging
> on the bars of the cage now before you fling any more dung. I'm surprised
> you've been allowed to continue this long. The moderator must be asleep at
> the wheel. In any event I won't be opening any more posts from you, so if
> you feel compelled to convince yourself that you had the last word, feel
> free to spew whatever further invective continues to eat at you. No doubt
> some find it entertaining. Show's over folks, he'll calm down shortly.
>
> --Phil M.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Payson" <mike@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Maybe OT, reprap build started
>
>
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Phil@Yahoo <yahoo@...>
> > wrote:
> >> Chill. Try the decaf.
> >>
> >> I stand by every word.
> >
> > LOL "Nothing I say is correct, but I stand by every word". And you
> > accuse the RepRap community of using the tactics of politicians? ;-)
> >
> >> The fact that the guys selling stuff don't call
> >> themselves "RepRap" doesn't change a thing. Somebody is claiming a
> motive
> >> I
> >> do not believe. To assert that I chose not to build one of these
> machines
> >> at
> >> this time because I can't understand them is just plain stupid. You know
> >> nothing of my abilities. To pass one's self off as a great humanitarian
> >> while obfuscating the facts is a favorite tactic of politicians and, now
> >> apparently, some engineers too.
> >
> > No one would argue that the RepRap documentation doesn't suck. It
> > does. In fact in many areas it sucks badly. But it is quite a big jump
> > from "the documentation sucks" to "there is a global conspiracy to
> > make sure that Phil M. does not get a RepRap without buying one".
> >
> > It seems to me that you made a big fallacy in the reasoning that lead
> > you to your conclusion. You seem to assume that because YOU cannot
> > understand the documentation, NO ONE can understand it. I am sure you
> > are correct and that you have many varied skills, but unless you are
> > claiming that you are a super-genius of some sort, it seems reasonable
> > that there are things in the world that you do not understand yet are
> > quite understandable to others. I am sure even Albert Einstein had to
> > ask for help now and then. Judging from the many thousands of RepRaps
> > in the world today, a significant percentage of which were
> > self-sourced (my own included), it is clear that it is possible to
> > build a reprap, and it is even possible to do so without spending a
> > dime at one of the normal RepRap suppliers (though you are asking for
> > trouble if you do not at least source your hot end from one of the
> > known suppliers).
> >
> > The simple reality is that the reprap is a RAPIDLY changing open
> > source project. Few open source projects have good documentation to
> > begin with, and almost no open source projects change even half as
> > quickly as the stuff in the reprap world does. I follow it VERY
> > closely, and even I don't know half of what is going on at any given
> > time. It is almost impossible to keep the documentation current, let
> > alone keeping it organized.
> >
> >> One has to wonder where your interests are vested. Methinks thou doth
> >> protest too much.
> >
> > Lol again. You are a very funny man. Too bad you are not trying to be.
> > You need to stop, take a deep breath, and realize that the world is
> > not conspiring against you. I have no "interests" here except the
> > interest in a fun, useful hobby and, if possible, helping others to
> > get started in the hobby.
> >
> > As I have said, I make no money from the reprap, in spite of being a
> > significant contributor to two of the available electronics designs
> > (including one of the two most popular), a minor contributor to the
> > other popular design, and the lead architect of what I hope to be the
> > next generation electronics system (I don't make a dime from any of
> > those). I am also about to release what I fully expect to be the new
> > standard RepRap design, and while I will probably sell a few part sets
> > on eBay to recoup some the costs of the development, I do not expect
> > to make any significant amount of money from this design, either. I do
> > not receive any monetary compensation from any of the suppliers for
> > giving advice. I have gotten samples from a couple suppliers, but I
> > assure you those do not effect who I recommend in any way. I do all
> > this because I enjoy it, there is no other "interest" involved.
> >
> > If you are willing to put aside your conspiracy theories, I am HAPPY
> > to help you understand what you need. For example it seems like one
> > question you should have asked, but didn't was "If you do not
> > recommend EMC or Mach3, and I don't want to buy pre-made electronics,
> > are there other options available to me?" If you had asked that
> > question (or something similar) I would have pointed you to the Gen7
> > design, which is completely DIY, designed for home etching or cnc
> > routing. I would provide you a link, but the reprap wiki is down right
> > now (Though it is possible that is just people conspiring to keep you
> > from finding this valuable piece of information). But if you go to the
> > reprap Wiki later and search for "Gen 7" or possibly "Gen7" I am sure
> > you can find it.
> >
> > If you have other questions, feel free to ask. If you just want to
> > rant some more about how evil we all are, feel free to do that also,
> > just do it somewhere else.
> >
> > Mike
> >
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