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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Maybe OT, reprap build started

Posted by Mike Payson
on 2011-10-09 20:59:46 UTC
This email is horribly representative of the misconceptions many people have
about he project... Most of what you say was true but to a large extent it
is no longer true. The print quality of a well tuned reprap today exceeds
that of a $20,000 Stratasys Dmiension, and you can print more materials and
colors. It is also faster making the same print. You are correct that it is
still not generally suitable as a consumer product, but it is not marketed
as one, and anyone who suggests it is (for example Bre from Makerbot) is
either lying or horribly misinformed. That said, we are now at a point where
it is /almost/ consumer friendly. The last big issue is the software, which
is still not user-friendly enough, but a couple projects are underway that
should fix this problem.

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Low Compression <
editor@...> wrote:

> I had a young man who built one and wrote an article about it for my
> magazine. I also observed the machine at several shows over a period of a
> year. It had problems generated by A: a poor print head design and B:
> electronics very susceptible to emi/rfi.
>
> Also, as an electronics technician, I can tell you that there isn't much
> thought put into the shielding and power supply of the kit machine. It was
> not designed to be a commercial product, it was, at least at the stage of
> development I've seen, a gee whiz folks, we can actually make a 3D printer
> you can play with for an affordable amount of money. Pretty much where
> microcomputers were in 1978 when I built my first one. It's a computer (or
> printer) but it doesn't do a lot of anything but train the builder.
>
> Were I wanting a 3D printer, I'd probably buy a print head and install it
> on my CNC mill. Much more stable platform mechanically, well worked out
> electronics and then I could focus on making the head perform reliably. Or
> I'd buy a better head and use that.
>
> The output I've seen from a RepRap is interesting, but not of the quality
> I've received from better 3D printers.
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Martin <kpmartin@...> wrote:
> >
> > Do you have specific evidence to this effect, or are you just
> conjecturing?
> >
> > Our printer's temperment had nothing to do with the electronics.
> >
> > -Kevin Martin
> > the Papertrail Handmade Paper & Book Arts
> > New Dundee, Ontario
> > 518-884-7123
> > www.papertrail.ca
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rehmus
> >
> > The machines are very poorly design with regard to shielding for the
> > electronics and filtering for the power supply. That is mostly what
> causes
> > them to be temperamental. No surprise, really, everything sits out in the
> > open.
> >
>
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